http://www.cftc.gov/ucm/groups/public/@aboutcftc/documents/file/transcript071410.pdf p204 16 MR. COSGROVE: Well, I became aware of a 17 paper just yesterday that was produced by a group 18 called NANEX, and it's photocopied and handed out 19 to everyone this afternoon. I had intended to, if 20 I had a little more time, to send this in. 21 I didn't author this work and I don't 22 know these guys, but I read the paper, and I was p205 fascinated, because I've been in energy and 2 commodity markets for nearly 30 years, and I've 3 certainly seen many variations of gaming of 4 various markets, and I've been trying to figure 5 out for the last week or so how you can game a 6 market using high frequency trading, 7 notwithstanding the flash business, which I think 8 is a separate issue. And in this NANEX paper, 9 they've highlighted something that they call 10 "stuffing fingerprints," where someone appears to 11 be generating a high degree of orders that they 12 explain as quite probably meant to jam up 13 competing algorithmic traders. And so they 14 essentially generate a large volume of orders and 15 then program their own algorithms to disregard 16 those orders so that they can process the normal 17 market information, but at the same time, those 18 who don't have that information are now processing 19 an enormous amount of spurious information that 20 does nothing but slow them down. 21 And so there is -- I mean if you look at 22 this, I think it's fascinating, they name some p206 great names like Bayonet and Crystal Pyramid and 2 so forth. And if this, in fact, true, then I 3 think somebody ought to find out exactly who 4 generated this and get an explanation of why, 5 because I mean, clearly, this isn't metaphysical, 6 somebody produced those, and it's possible to find 7 out who it is, and I'd love to find out who it is 8 and sit them down and say, what is this and what's 9 the commercial purpose. 10 And I think that, if nothing else, it 11 would scare the heck out of people who might 12 otherwise be tempted to promulgate those kinds of 13 strategies. So this is the first example that 14 I've seen, you know, where it was something other 15 than the kind of extension of behavior that you 16 would see with locals who are going to go run 17 through stops on a quiet afternoon, or, you know, 18 spoof some guy across the ring who is short and 19 sweating, and this is the first thing that I've 20 seen that seems to be more than a simple extension 21 of the kind of stuff that we've seen in the rings 22 for 30 years. p207 So I think -- if we don't find out who 2 did that, I think it's one of the biggest crimes 3 of the year. I mean somebody did that, let's see 4 who it is and ask them why they did it. 5 CHAIRMAN O'MALIA: Andrei, do you want 6 to speak to that? 7 MR. KIRILENKO: NANEX representatives 8 who were here left Thursday, they presented their 9 views to -- in this very room, a room full of our 10 enforcement, surveillance and economist staff, and 11 staff from the Securities and Exchange Commission. 12 We're taking their research very, very seriously. 13 They provided us with all the data that they have 14 on this day. We are supplementing this data with 15 the identities data, and the SEC is doing the 16 same. We're looking into it very, very seriously, 17 I should assure you. 18 MR. COSGROVE: I'd love to know what you 19 find out. 20 MR. KIRILENKO: It might be a federal 21 felony for me to tell you. 22 MR. COSGROVE: We'll talk about it p208 later. 2 MR. GORELICK: Yeah, I would just agree 3 with those comments. I mean if someone was doing 4 that for a manipulative purpose, then there should 5 be an enforcement action. 6 MR. COSGROVE: Yeah, let's go get them.